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You are here: Home / About Waterlooville / BAE Plans: Is this now a Retail Park from Developer Hargreaves?

BAE Plans: Is this now a Retail Park from Developer Hargreaves?

Friday 8th May 2015 by Steve Mayne

Back in January 2015, Waterlooville was shocked and dismayed to learn that the new developer had withdrawn plans for the BAE Leisure Park.

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The leisure park, to be built on the old BAE site just off the Hambledon Road, was going to include:

  • Bowling Alley
  • Cinema
  • Restaurants
  • Pub
  • Drive-through restaurant
  • Health & Fitness Centre
  • Hotel
  • Aldi

BAE Retail Park Waterlooville

The first sets of new plans for this location have been submitted by the new developer Hargreaves, in summary:

  • There is no more Aldi; a Lidl will be built here.
  • There will be not one but two drive-thru restaurants; a McDonalds and KFC. a The McDonalds restaurant will have a small childrens play area and a patio.
  • There are other buildings which are unnamed.
  • The plans contain many small buildings which could be commercial offices or perhaps small shops or industrial units.

Our questions on these plans are:

  • Is Cowplain at risk of losing their existing Lidl?  Are are two Lidls a few miles apart sustainable?
  • Is Cowplain is at risk of losing their existing KFC? Are two KFCs a few miles apart sustainable?
  • Why are remaining buildings on the plans unnamed with no function indicated?

Based on these plans, I don’t think this is a leisure park. This looks similar to the Havant Retail Park built by developer Hargreaves, this park comprises of KFC, Aldi, Wickes, Pizza Hutt, Carphone Warehouse etc.

Hargreaves is also the developer here at the Former BAE Systems Technology Park Waterlooville. Will Hargreaves run to the same formula as the Havant Retail Park?

So residents of Waterlooville, do you think you’ll get a Leisure Park or a Retail Park from Hargreaves?

What about the employees of existing Cowplain Lidl, and Cowplain KFC, will they be moving or have they even been consulted?

You can see the partial planning application here and there is also information on how to respond to the plans.

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Comments

  1. Graham Wilkinson says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:39

    More skilled jobs coming to Waterloovile then !

  2. Carrie Desmond says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:39

    Nearly everything that is in the retail park in Havant is within a mile of Waterlooville – Carpetright, Wickes, Dreams etc. I reeeeally hope this is refused, we need some leisure facilities!!!!

  3. Becky Truscott says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:39

    When I worked for KFC in Cowplain years ago it was always having gossip that it was moving to Waterlooville. But the rumours are never right. I don’t see lidl moving from Cowplain at all.

  4. Sandra Winter says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    Sainsbury’s in Waterlooville was a big mistake. KFC in Cowplain I never visit as parking is an issue there. We need more leisure things to do, not another retail park like Havant.

  5. About Waterlooville says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    Hi Carrie, it’s in black and white on the plans, Lidl, KFC. McDonalds. If it is wrong then the developer would need to resubmit.

  6. About Waterlooville says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    I should also add, the plans are called “Retail Site Development Plan” – that kind of gives it away. Bummer.

  7. Jemma Good says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    Danny McClean

  8. James Sparey says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    Joel Hatchard, James Jardine
    You may wunna read this?!?!?!

  9. Judd Charlotte says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    There is nothing to do around waterlooville, except shop, I don’t drive and would like walking distance to do something with my partner and our baby on the way, believe it or not but shopping does get boring after a while.

  10. Emma Jayne says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    Why is sainsburys in waterlooville a mistake?

  11. Bex Frost says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    We need leisure facilities not more bloody mcdonalds and KFC?! We need a cinema, bowling alley etc, so many new houses being built with nothing to do! Such a disappointment

  12. Bex Frost says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    Sainsburys is fantastic, we visit it a few times a week, just ashame there is two more un needed shops being built on top of parking spaces in the retail park

  13. Carrie Desmond says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    So was planning permitted before for the previous bowling alley etc? Surely if this has changed to a retail park they would need to resubmit to planning as change of use?

  14. Emma Jayne says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    That’s annoyed everyone I believe Bex… It’s supposedly meant to be like Burfields in Portsmouth.. 😕 x

  15. Fay Page says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    Chris Page

  16. Bex Frost says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    Will residents ever be asked what they want?!

  17. James Jardine says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 09:40

    Wow James Sparey

  18. James Jardine says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    Tony Lancett

  19. Kerry Clements says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    I think the original plans were better !! Our children need places to go to , the nearest cinema is Port Solent or Gun Wharf , also nearest bowling is Gun Wharf . Would be nice to consult the general public , but that’s just too easy !!

  20. Sophie Edwards says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    Mike Edwards

  21. Barbara George says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    Cowplain KFC needs relocating but leisure facilities are badly needed for all the new residents

  22. Sara Lewer says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    There are plenty of empty shops in Waterlooville town centre that need filling before anymore retail space is built.

  23. About Waterlooville says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    Hi Carrie – the developer withdrew the original plans, so currently there no permission for Bowling etc.

  24. Kath Hooker says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    We need something to do, not more shopping! Cinema and bowling alley would be perfect.

  25. Barbara George says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    Quite agree Sara, the landlords need to stop charging such high rents and encourage decent businesses back into the town centre

  26. Kerry Jane says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    definitely needs the kfc moving from cowplain.
    but why wont they put something for the kids to do there like cinema and bowling. there is nothing for them in waterlooville and buses are getting so expensive, i hope they change there minds.

  27. Sarah Fellows says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:14

    I was wondering what they are going to be putting up on the London Road area where they are building houses now near Corbett road as we need a large children’s play area and places for couples to go as town is becoming a ghost town with empty shops and not having the need to go to Portsmouth or ports solent for the evening and be in Waterlooville to enjoy a evening than travelling long distance

  28. Aimie Williams says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    KFC in Cowplain though 😂

  29. Sinead Conlane says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    Stacey Brewer how rubbish is this then!

  30. Rachel Lucking says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    Has anyone considered petitioning the council?

  31. Adam Stanistreet says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    I wondered the same thing Rachel Lucking. Is there a petition set up? I’d sign straight away. I don’t know how to set the petition things up myself. Rather see an empty space than more retail!!! The 1st plans would be much more preferable though! The council need to push for leisure. Surely it would sit well with horizon being there too?

  32. Teresa Jane Rowe says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    With all the houses being built, Waterlooville desperately needs some leisure activities! There is nothing to do! Waterlooville town centre is nothing but a ghost town of charity and coffee shops and more needs to be done to encourage shops back into the town.

  33. Joel Hatchard says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    Having worked at kfc the plans for the drivecthrough have there have been known for years and kfc are unlikely to close the cowplain one amd i work for lidl too now and this is the first I’ve heard of that development

  34. Donna Netting says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    What u wanted a aldi gutted.xx

  35. Alex S-d says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    All these people talking about needing more leisure facility’s, nothing wrong with building another one and charging an affordable price, but what’s wrong with the leisure centre 500 yards away? What’s stopping you using that one ? It has a lot to offer if your genuinely want to get involved in your chosen sport.

    • Mark Steinson says

      Monday 14th March 2016 at 19:47

      Alex , the leisure facility in Waterlooville is fine but with a bit more thought it could have been made better. My kids always preferred the Taro centre at Petersfield as it had more to do there in the pool area. But this is not the type of leisure facility people are talking about . We are talking about an evenings entertainment , cinema or bowling and maybe a pub/restaurant after .

  36. Ashlea Walters says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:39

    Josh Rigelsford…. well this back fired… Waterlooville is still at risk of becoming hang out on the streets central.

  37. Teresa Jane Rowe says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 10:40

    People don’t just want leisure centres like Horizon (nothing wrong with Horizon if you like your sports) but we have no recreational facilities as in a bowling alley or cinema. You can’t build 10,000 homes and not provide places for entertainment

  38. Bradley Weedon says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 11:39

    Aldi isn’t Lidl responding to that question 😂

  39. Hayley Roberts says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 11:39

    But they only just got rid of Mcdonalds in Waterlooville because it couldn’t compete with the drive through in Havant (which never made sense to me)? Why would this new one work any better? A retail park would work if they put the right sort of shops in there as right now the precinct has been pretty much reduced to charity shops and coffee shops, but leisure facilities are also much needed.

  40. Karen Robinson says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 11:39

    Why don’t they just listen to what people want. The first plans were better NO to KFC which stinks NO to McDonald’s give us the cinema and the bowling Alley give us Aldi. This is just rubbish why is this allowed to happen.

  41. Jodie Rafferty says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 11:39

    Vicki Kerr

  42. Teresa Jane Rowe says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 11:39

    There needs to be stuff for people to do either as families or couples. There are only so many coffees a person can drink and you can’t shop all the time! Would sooner have an Aldi as our nearest one is Havant and there is already a Lidl in Cowplain.

  43. Teresa Jane Rowe says

    Monday 11th May 2015 at 11:39

    The original plans were good and the people I’ve spoken too were all for it. Shame the new developer doesn’t re look at the original plans or even ask the residents of Waterlooville what they would like to see there